Hi Raggy. I have already pointed out that the numbers quoted are irrelevant. They are obviously wrong but someone keeps quoting one of them, incorrectly, without the other. As I said a few posts back the main point of the Wiki article was that the number declined in the 80s but by the mid 90s the decline stopped. It also states that the decrease was due to changing musical and social trends. Which makes sense to me. Unlike the other explanation!. I have no idea where they got the figures from. EFDSS registered maybe? I dunno. But presuming they use the same source for both 1965 (over 300) and now (over 160) it shows that their source shows that the number of clubs had almost halved. No surprise to me as the number of pubs has reduced by a similar amount. Hope this helps and puts the 186, 136 or whatever figure is next quoted to bed once and for all.