Jim B, I respect your point of view, but let me just say as a similarly combative (at times) contributor here that Jim and I have often disagreed with each other over both substance and perspective, and express those differences openly and publicly, but you will not find a single instance down the years of he and I being less than civil to each other. I highly respect his knowledge and contributions and perhaps that's why I don't wish to destroy the mutual trust by indulging in attack-dog behaviour of the kind we currently see from Iains and one or two other lesser lights. Like Joe Offer, I've wished on occasion that Jim would step back from responding to the jealous idiots who provoke us. But I'm not going along with the victim-blaming I'm afraid. On every other forum I've contributed to, trolls are dealt with in a very straightforward way, via warnings and deletions then via expulsion. None of your protracted nonsense. It works. Ask Jeremy, Molly and Dale Wisely (with all of whom I've had many a spat). I don't want or expect democracy but equally I don't want trolls with free rein to be able to make their targets into culprits. That's very debilitating and it gives the mods ten times as much work to do.