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Thread #157878 Message #4034610
Posted By: Jim Carroll
17-Feb-20 - 10:20 AM
Thread Name: Dave Harker, Fakesong
Subject: RE: Dave Harker, Fakesong
"It looks to me as if nobody knows where 'The Wild Rover' came from" I suggest you read Brian's article on the song - he puts up an excellent argument for his claims on the source My argument was that the theme is timeless and it was one of many "Don't present your theory as if it were fact" I should mention that to Steve Gardham - and to Dave Harker, come to think of it THere ay be no definiive answers to any of these questions, but there are plenty of 'most likelys' None of what we know about Walter is 'Mediated' and it is scurrilous to suggest it is
Walter is probably the most interviewed of any of our source singers, and certainly the most articulate Walter bagan to list his family's songs in notebooks in the 1940s, before either collectors or folkies got near him - his discrimination is plain from the songs he chose to write down (and later, personally record') and what he didn't When Walter was asked by a family member to record his songs, from that original fit tape, this is what he chose from over well over 100 songs
British Man Of War Rambling Blade The Irish Girl Caroline And Her Young Sailor Bold Generals All Pretty Ploughboy Van Dieman's Land Jack Tar On Shore I Wish, I Wish Dark Eyed Sailor The Deserter Lads of High Renown Broomfield Hill Bush of Australia Bonny Bunch of Roses Lord Lovell Peggy Bawn Mowing The Barley Seventeen Come Sunday Jolly Waggoners Cock a Doodle Doo Bold Fisherman Poor Smugglers Boy Wraggle Taggle Gypsies The Green Bushes Help One Another Rambling Blade (accordeon) Caroline and Her Young Sailor Bold Bush of Australia The Huntsman The Transports (Van Dieman’s Land) Jack Tar Lads of High Renown
We have his notebooks, which indicate the same inclination towards real folk songs
What the hell do you insist on slandering people - friends and researchers of Walter - as you do ? Jim Carroll