Clearly we can't have anything nice here. The group ganging up on this thread to talk politics, to discuss moderation, to request particular moderation (we tried to add something new and you decided it meant you could get away with all sorts of crap) isn't what this thread was about.

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Eliza and I had a conversation, after the moderators had a conversation, about the behavior of the British men on this thread.

This is what I told Eliza in one of our exchanges:
"It is strange - many of them I consider friends, but they simply refused to "get it" when they were told they were off topic and bullying others. I saw a group of middle-aged and older white British men announcing to the women on the thread that what they wanted to discuss was okay because it was what they wanted to talk about. And when I said "no," then they wanted to argue about it. None of that having to do with the thread."

I do consider many of you friends, but I am deeply disappointed at how incredibly thoughtless and dense you were regarding this topic. And how dismissive of the attempt to turn the thread around. You guys can do better; let's hope the turnaround comes real soon.