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Thread #168245   Message #4064941
Posted By: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
19-Jul-20 - 02:13 PM
Thread Name: This land is WHOSE land?
Subject: RE: This land is WHOSE land?
Joe: So, when Woody wrote his song over the 1940s, he was writing for the vast numbers of working people of all races who held very little of the wealth and power in these United States.

If you are including Mexicans and African-Americans in that statement you are putting words in Woody Guthrie's mouth that don't match the ones he had coming out at that time. Not your song.

Ugly Americana:

Canadian tribal and place names are overwhelmingly French. The American and Mexican southwest are Spanish. Before the Yanks, 'Canada' went all the way down to 'Mexico.'

Cherokee got the 'European' diseases & plagues from the Spanish and Portuguese. Their land was stolen by Scots-Irish. The Western tribes the Anglos displaced didn't exist when the Pilgrims landed. Going about on horseback is from the Spanish.

One need not put up a Wall Street to impact a land. The North American west had been completely transformed in the centuries before the Anglos arrived. The Spanish cattle ranchers and French fur traders had thoroughly decimated and completely transformed the Native American plains populations.

Four human generations per century for ten centuries, Great-great-great-great..ad nauseum to your own mother and father. For the Guthrie family, grabbbing native American land is not an academic or artistic abstraction about "rich folks accents." It's "Paps" Guthrie, flesh and blood.