I'm sorry Al but that last post was not only Ill-informed but from my point of view bordered upon the offensive. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and I would refer you to my article ' 'The Last of the singing pubs' in 'Living Tradition'. Also, you may want to re-read Dick Miles post above. Please do not presume to tell me or anybody else what we may or may not know about the British Asian community, or portray our attitudes to the same.