The Sandman wrote: I am not going to engage in semantics with you, over words like poor and not so poor...

Who gets the payment, and who doesn't, is important. It was you who suggested upthread that it should be means tested, without knowing that was what is being proposed. It's more complicated than simple headlines suggest.

...If starmer was an astute politician he would compromise on this...

I agree.

Backwoodsman wrote: The government have made a big mistake, and the uproar it has caused is distracting the attention of the public away from the other, good, and important things they are doing.

I agree 100%.