Thanks everyone. i will contact gordon bok and others. Is it possible that the tune was not copyrighted? If so, what then? Or is recording it proof enough I love everything about making cds except the copyright and darned if i will ever try to do another canadian one. Usually I just say no copyrights, but that song and shipright apprentice are just so great. How do we do that in england? And I do love John Roberts' version of figurehead carver. Did not realize till today it was about marco polo, although it might even say so in the song. I am terrible about listening well to lyrics.