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Posted By: Helen
05-Mar-25 - 12:40 AM
Thread Name: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
Hubby sent me this but I don't have a link for it:
An interesting analysis made by ChatGPT regarding the psychological aspects of the meeting between Zelensky and Trump-Vance is circulating online.
From the analysis, we can conclude that we have witnessed a real master class in gaslighting, manipulation and coercion from Trump and his entourage.
Let's analyze the key points:
Blaming the victim for their own situation: Trump literally tells Zelensky: "You allowed yourself to be in a very bad position." This is a classic abuser's technique - to blame the victim for their suffering. Like, it's your own fault that Russia occupied you and is killing your people.
Pressure and coercion to "gratitude": Vance demands that Zelensky say "thank you." This is an extremely toxic technique - to force the victim to thank for the help that she vitally needs, and then accuse her of ingratitude if she tries to defend her rights.
Manipulation of the concept of "peace": Trump claims that Zelensky is "not ready for peace." But by this he means the capitulation of Ukraine. This is typical manipulation - replacing the concept of "just peace" with the concept of "surrender."
Refusal to acknowledge the reality of war: Trump constantly says that Zelensky "has no cards," that "without us, you have no cards." This is another technique of the abuser - to devalue the efforts of the victim, claiming that she is powerless without the mercy of the "savior."
Devaluation of the victims of war: "If you have a ceasefire, you have to accept it so that the bullets stop flying and your people stop dying." But Trump ignores that a ceasefire without guarantees is just a breathing space for Russia to regroup and strike again.
Dominance tactics: Trump constantly interrupts, does not let Zelensky speak. He says, "No, no, you've said enough," "You're in no position to dictate to us." This is a deliberate use of psychological pressure to establish a hierarchy where Zelensky is a subordinate.
Forcing capitulation under the guise of "diplomacy": Vance claims that "the path to peace is through diplomacy." This is a classic tactic when the aggressor is allowed to continue his aggression without resistance.
Projection and substitution of concepts: Trump says, "You are playing with the lives of millions of people." But this is exactly what he does by shifting responsibility to Zelensky.
Creating the illusion that Zelensky owes America something: The United States does help Ukraine, but presenting this aid in the form of "you must obey, otherwise you will not get anything" is a form of financial and military coercion, not partnership.
Devaluing Ukrainian resistance: Trump says that "if it were not for our weapons, this war would be over in two weeks." This is an attempt to completely erase the merits of Ukrainians and present them as completely dependent on the United States.
Conclusion: Trump and his team used the full range of abusive tactics: gaslighting, blaming the victim, forcing gratitude, manipulating the concepts of "peace" and "diplomacy". These are not negotiations - this is an attempt to force Zelensky to accept conditions that are beneficial to the United States, but mortally dangerous for Ukraine.