MS, did you really mean to say that liberals think "Pull up the ladder, I'm aboard?" I've always atributed that to conservatives. (the ones with all the money)

Naemanson, you wouldn't believe how far I've slipped from the right. I was a Barry Goldwater republican, a rabid member of the National Rifle Assassination and almost a John Bircher. Now, I firmly believe that it is our duty in this life to help our fellow man, and, I think that generally it is the Liberals who do that best.Sure, there are those who abuse the system, and, there are those who would cut off aid to single mothers who keep having kids. But, who is that going to hurt? THE KIDS! "The Devil loves an unwanted child." (Henry Kranz)