Two brilliant pieces of material!

Thanks indeed, Dulcimer and Joe.

I think I need to add both accounts to the tale of Canny Shove Yer Granny in a book Im at work, with the tentative title of: Why Is It All Right To Shove Your Other Granny?

Dulcimer - what copyright credit / acknowledgement do you want, if I do? (I don't think I can stretch to an actual cash payment, however.)Or, can you quote me a source re your account of MA Jones?

Mail me direct at 101771.427@compuserve.com if you like.