Welcome aboard Cranky Yankee. I will agree with you on one thing (at least) Lou Killen is one hell of a fine singer. And although the square rigger is more majestic, and is all you say, there is one advantage that the fore and aft rig has over square rig, and that is, the fore and aft will sail closer to the wind. Now, the matter of Lt. Wm. Bligh. If he was so concerned about his men, why did they take his ship? Then, when he became Governor of New South Wales, why did his officers mutiny and keep him under house arrest? of all the different tellings of this tale, I thought THE BOUNTY with Anthony Hopkins came closer to the truth than either of the other two.What do you think?