Naemanson,

Well, actually, the fascists and the Nazi's were conservative movements

You mean they were strict followers of the US Constitution?

Except when it comes to telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies

All I'm saying is it should be an individual state decision. Abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution and R v.Wade should be reversed.

Yet Nixon and Reagan both took active steps to avoid constitutional restrictions, bending and even breaking the checks placed on the office of the president

Nixon resigned and we helped him pack. He did nothing compared to the hatchet job cLINTON did. At least he had the dignity to resign.

What did Reagan do to violate the Constitution?

Democrats, on the other hand believe in the freedoms granted to the people of this country, upholding the spirit and the letter of the basis of all law in this land

Yeah they do, except for one thing....

FREEDOM ISN'T GRANTED TO THE PEOPLE

People give permission to the state to regulate them.

Democrats believe that government is the answer to every problem. They want you be dependent on them for your every need and to have you shirk responsibility for your own needs and actions.

They don't give a damn about law and order and love protecting a criminal's rights over yours.

Your own Maine speaker of the House said "I don't give a damn what it says in the Constitution".

This is really representative of spirit and letter, ya think?

the Republican party seems to be made up of people who march, in lock step, to the drums beaten by their leaders

You're kidding right? Ever heard of "The Big Tent"? This implies we can include everything from Bible thumpers to murder/borts.

We have "Country Club Republicans", "Christian Conservatives", "Social Conservatives", "Fiscal Conservatives", "Moderates (Liberals)", "RINOs", "Libertarians" etc.

Are you telling me there is no difference between Christine Ron Paul, Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Christine Todd Whitman and John Ashcroft?

We argue about everything all the time, and I say the tent is too damn big.

The Democrats seem to be willing to question their leaders and argue with them. That is why they seem to be "rolling over" in the face of the Republican party these days. The Democrats have never been able to agree and come up with a consensus

I think you have it backwards. I know several defectors (elected) who have told me the reason they left the democrat party was because of the forceful coersion in the House. If you did not vote as told, there would be no committee assignments for you and you would be opposed in a primary in your next election.

Now then, MAV, before we end up rolling on the ground, tearing at each other, let's agree on a basic principle in any argument. Only attack the arguments. Do not attack your opponent. I have tried very hard in the above paragraphs to keep the statements pointed at the Republican party in general. The degree to which you take them personally is up to you BUT THEY ARE NOT INTENDED AS A PERSONAL ATTACK.

Geeesh, take it easy. I'm not going to attack you.

I think you've seen my complaints referring to vulgarities and fecal comparisons.....You haven't done anything like that

I've heard you are a very nice guy.

I'd rather have you as an arguing buddy, not an enemy.

regards,

mav out