A sort of Mudcat Parent's Sanctuary? Bring me your huddled masses, your aching heads, your weary wallets? That sort of thing?Excellent idea.Seriously though,it does help to be able to sound ideas out,seek another viewpoint, not feel as though I am the only one puzzled by this strange lifeform.Thanks guys.And Patrish, look forward to seeing you and you had probably best bring some aspirin....does anyone know why 'thrash metal' has to be played so loud and what exactly is it?