Hawk, you are right, it is always the other guys' fault. However, Russia never landed troops on our soil after our revolution. They have never forgotten that we did, and, it is one of the reasons they dont trust us. We also invaded Canada during the war of 1812. We shoulda stood in bed! Toadfrog, what I'm saying is, according to all those knowledgable people, the central banks and the international banks are all the same in purpose, to control the money supply, and, it is still going on. As I asked before, where do you think Hitler got the money to bring Germany from its' knees to a world power in 6 years?