Wincing Devil, clothing sizes are terminally screwed anyway.I think they vary from year to year with the fashion. Sometimes Large is large, and sometimes it isn't. Mister is tall, but not big, and he sometimes has challenges finding sleeves long enough. Trousers that are long enough often are too large in the waist for him.And lots of times women's dresses are made for Barbie - large boobs and no hips. -sigh-