The pity is, as Jill says, is that when well behaved children are out in public (and hers are very well behaved - despite what she sometimes may think. *grin*) good manners are seen as the exception, not the rule.I have also noticed the falling off in the percentage of people who salute the flag as it passes in parade, or recite the Pledge of Allegience - or stand for the National Anthem.