Thank you, Burke. There were several other incidents as well--if I related them here, I could be arrested for child abuse. I loved, and still love, ,my children, but raising children without a Support System is impossible.

I find myself still wondering about the "religion" involved and the involvement of the husband......

I thought I was through posting to this thread, but I guess not......

(Little Hawk--now I don't know what it was that tripped my trigger--forgive me, OK? It sure wasn't the "lives" thing.)