OK, Jim, but the problem with the "both sides are to blame" argument is that while it is has some merit, it ignores the basic injustice that is at the root of the problem. It causes people to slip into the shrugged shoulders mode and then fall back on the perceptual reality that they live in as opposed to digging deep and finding solutions. In the meantime, another 19 year old kid is dead and another father is grieving.

Mick