In my own strange way, I must admit that it was the trolling and the flaming threads that really endeared me to mudcat. No, I didn't enjoy the trolling and the flaming, but I was quite impressed with the way that Catters would come to the defense of their own. I myself take the route of ignoring them except when a guest paints such a big bulleye on his/her forehead that it's too good to pass up!!Frank