Its not a thread attacking Joe and those who agree with him, rather it is about the hypocrisy of allowing nonsense threads such as the erection to exist and say nothing, but jumping all over the mere mention of the word prayer. Not a place here? Why not? Plenty of nonmusical threads take place here - just because Joe so doesnt agree with what was posted here doesnt mean it cant appear. Like others have said - if you dont like it dont read it. I apply to that standard. Not a close relative of the catter? So what! Does one have to have a certain relationship with another person before it's deemed fitting to pray or ask to be prayed for? I don't think so. I found it to be quite innocent as opposed to plenty of the nonsense threads that come on here, not to mention the bickering and swearing between catters. thats what THIS thread is about. We're all here as music lovers, is it that big of a problem for people to care about each other too? Remember - if you dont like the subject then dont read or respond!