Well, of course, i pump for the Hammer dulcimer! As a small creep....Saw nephew last summer, who, at the ripe old age of 19, felt that it was just too late for him to ever be a "good" musician. Simply to old to learn. He felt that you need to start at 5 or something! Anyway, I started much later than the people that I play with, and can keep up, for the most part. You just need to be obsessive, and PRACTICE! It don't get smart laying in the case.