Hi Richard Who used to run the Phoebus Wakes? I have met a couple of them since the 70's but can't remember their names. A coule into gallery music and harmony, very pleasant and helpful. Skinners Rats are still turning up at Kentish festivals and great fun to listen to and play with. Dave Bryant still shows up at regular intervals in and around KentDon-I still have a tape pirated from a record, of the Troub regulars including Red (sadly no longer with us) doing their thing. I also have a copy of their sea shanties record - great times!!!!!!