Its the Day Rover that you may be asked for Les. I went on the Hudderfield to Sheffield Folk Train once! Very noise and bumpy but cunning ploy to keep regional rail links running off peak. Did notice some of the passengers did the whole trip bit of a night out from the retierment home. I wasn't very funny but they wet themselves anyway! Still you'll know more about that than me being a pensioner yourself. Must go and get my laptop checked I'm sure it keeps bringing up years old Threads. Found one tonight that said that you were only 53 :-) All the very best! Tyke