One of my other interests is canals and waterways, I could go onto a couple of waterways newsgroups, and invite everyone in the country to the jug, to talk about boats, would that be fair on the on the other regulars of the place? although they wouldn't damage the pub, and would as far as syd would be concerned be more trade for him. I wouldn't because it would change the dynamics of the place. I have no problem with any of the Individuals who attended last night I do have a problem with bill for treating the place as a venue for his own personal fan club. Last night may have developed into a good session, but it wasn't a jug session, when has a jug session ever nearly ended up in a punch up?(skipjackK8). And as far as "what is worse, an audience that doesn't listen or musicians without an audience." That says it all! The jug is not about showing off to others, it is about a group of people who have known one another for years getting together to make music together. New people join the group, and leave the group in one's and two's, they are not transplanted on mass. I can guess what the near punch up was about, did someone not want to worship at the alter of Bill Sables? Jug sessions are not a performance they are my friends, and bill's friends, and Chris's friends playing music together, and once in a while it all comes together and the whole place is grinning like a Cheshire cat because everyone there knows they've just played a tune really well. that is not the issue, what is the issue is that bill is trying to make the jug "HIS" session. If you want to give performances bill hire a hall, and sell tickets. Scorcha if your social life was hijacked for someone else's ego trip you would be crabby too