I have only just seen this thread for the first time. I feel like a bit of a fraud posting here, as I have only met Sandy and Carolyn once. That was this year at Old Songs Fest. Very nice warm people, I particularly like the way Sandy ran the Sing around in the Dutch Barn. I really hate those free for all jump right in scrums, and usually end up frustrated at the back. Sandy found me back there along with all the others who wanted to share a song but were not in the inner circle. Hope to see you both at many more OSF's Thanks, JohnB