renewing this thread just to thank those of you that reponded. I'm lots better now but I lost a very dear friend and found that I harboured lots of feelings and opinions that I didn't realise I had. I think that I I'll keep my opinions to myself from now on, but it helped a great deal to hear from people like 'spaw, Big Mick and Lonesome EJ who have been on the Cat as long as and longer than myself. May we pray that if the inevitable happens, then we get through it as unscathed as possible.