The whole idea is that when they open it, then the find out who it's from! It doesn't have to stay secret forever... as a matter of fact, if mudcat wasn't so uptight aobut threads with pics in them, we couild start a thread after X-mas to post pics of us with out gifts... Sorta a "look what I got, what did you get" thing...doesn't someone else here have a mb??? Maybe we could do such a thread there if mudcat won't relax about pics in threads....