It's a Mudcat first *G* Yep, I'm with DougR 100 per cent.

Just a point of detail, but I heard Guiliani use that "out of control" phrase and he was referring to the clean-up operation, not the firefighters.

To the guest who posted about fixing a date for the switch from "rescue operation" to "demolition": that switch happened weeks ago, and is not the issue here.