Jim - yes, there is. It tastes even worse than ordinary (or 'proper') tea, but then all proper tea is theft.... so where does that affect the price of kippers?

And Dave - it's 8 folkies to change a light bulb - 1 to change it, 3 to sing about how good the old one was and 4 to lament the demise of gas lamps and candles!

LTS - I went there Manitas, so hard cheese!