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Thread #41114   Message #592105
Posted By: catspaw49
13-Nov-01 - 10:45 PM
Thread Name: BS: Frozen pork chops
Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops
AS the chief cook and bottlewasher around here, Murray, may I say you are completely pathetic! What a riot!!!

Was any of the meat pink after it was cooked? And BTW, if you did happen to undercook it and it was pork infected with trichinosis, it's unlikely you will notice for some time yet. Since you probably didn't read Jeri's link, let me also post this:

"Abdominal symptoms can occur 1-2 days after infection. Further symptoms usually start 2-8 weeks after eating contaminated meat. Symptoms may range from very mild to severe and relate to the number of infectious worms consumed in meat. Often, mild cases of trichinosis are never specifically diagnosed and are assumed to be the flu or other common illnesses."

AND THIS WILL INTEREST YOU TOO!!! If you croak, at least you'll be in good company..........

Pork Cutlets May Have Killed Mozart


By LINDSEY TANNER-- The Associated Press

CHICAGO (AP) -- Forget rheumatic fever, kidney stones, heart disease, pneumonia and even poisoning. What really killed Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart 210 years ago could have been pork cutlets.

The latest theory about Mozart's untimely death on Dec. 5, 1791 at age 35 in Vienna suggests the culprit was likely trichinosis.

The worm infestation is usually caused by eating undercooked pork, and could explain all of Mozart's symptoms, which included fever, rash, limb pain and swelling, says Dr. Jan. V. Hirschmann of Puget Sound Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Seattle.

Hirschmann offers as damning evidence an innocuous little letter Mozart wrote to his wife 44 days before his illness began, as documented in a 1999 biography.

"What do I smell?... pork cutlets! Che Gusto (What a delicious taste). I eat to your health," the composer is quoted as writing.

"If his final illness was indeed trichinosis, whose incubation period is up to 50 days, Mozart may have unwittingly disclosed the precise cause of his death -- those very pork chops," Hirschmann said.

His eight-page report based on a probe of medical literature, historical documents and Mozart biographies is published in the June 11 issue of Archives of Internal Medicine (http://archinte.ama-assn.org).

Mozart died 15 days after he became ill. His doctors offered only a vague cause of death -- "severe miliary fever" -- and no autopsy was performed.

His wife, Constanze, reportedly said after his death that Mozart thought he was being poisoned, and rumours circulated that his enemies, including rival composer Antonio Salieri, may have done him in.

Since then, medical theorists have largely discounted foul play and Hirschmann, an infectious disease specialist, said there's no evidence to suggest Mozart had symptoms of acute poisoning.

His symptoms did match those of an unspecified epidemic disease going around Vienna at the time, Hirshmann said.

Trichinosis wasn't identified until the 1800s, when there were several deadly outbreaks in Europe.

Drugs since have been developed that can kill the worms and treat the symptoms, and fatal cases now are rare.

Hirschmann noted that complications of trichinosis can include pneumonia and heart problems -- culprits listed in other Mozart theories, which Hirschmann says don't adequately explain all the features of Mozart's illness.

Dr. Faith Fitzgerald, a University of California-Davis professor of medicine whose rheumatic fever theory was front-page news last year, isn't offended that Hirschmann has come up with a different explanation for Mozart's death.

Hirshmann's almost certainly won't be the last, Fitzgerald said.

"There have been 150 separate diagnoses proposed, and now there's another one," she said.

"It does strike me as somewhat strange the investment people have in something that is virtually unknowable."

Mozart's grave was dug up about seven years after his death so it could be reused, and his remains were dispersed.

Hirschmann acknowledged that not being able to be proved wrong "makes it much more enjoyable to speculate."

Doctors like to review the master's death "because "it's fun and because it's Mozart," Fitzgerald said.

"I personally think that he died because they needed a new choirmaster in heaven."

Spaw