Well, as a TweedieNewbie, I for one would like to know this vital information! And I'll trade you for the true tale of how the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed came into existence. It's first mentioned in a Mudcat classic thread, which was later refreshed so that post number 300,000 could happen on such a high class thread! So if you want the inside dope (and I know I do on Bobert), CLICK HERE for the infamous Tiple (Tipple) thread. Enjoy.Spaw