Right on, Terry, for your Welsh Miners Club! I hesitate to add more words on the hunting topic, which I think is a town/country split -- a matter (if we're honest about it) to which logical argument is simply window dressing. How do you "explain" or "justify" any primitive joy to someone has never experienced it?

But one comment does seem apropos. People who disapprove of hunting as sport usually think it's fine if you're hunting for the pot. Do it if you have to, but don't enjoy it, right? Or maybe you can enjoy it only if you're doing it for the right reason? Which sounds an awful lot like what a radical rightist might say about sex, but then, that's a joy that city-dwellers do understand. Just imagine if you had to explain it to them ...