Bobert - As usual - when I am tired I am not very clear. I mean the crap of this discussion. The point I was trying to make for you was the one of finances being the motivating force for armed conflict. The italics in my post were your words - and man if that isn't profit for someone - then what? I'm not angry, maybe a bit upset, just trying to point out to you that money is the reason for conflict. Goes right to the heart of my assertion that if peace becomes more profitable then we'll have it. The rest is semantical in nature and folks have got to do what they can with what they have.

I'll never give up working for justice. As a social worker on a military base I walk a very fine line with my political inclinations. But I am highly respected for my position on armed conflict (can we have peace please?), yet my unflagging committment to work for the stability of Air Force families.

Don't take me personally - when I'm tired I can sound like a butt. If I offended you I apologize (getting better about eating crow without salt of late).

Steve