Very sad Frank...and I'm glad that Karen is there for you and helping you both be there for your kids.

Oddly enough, I was just thinking last night that our boys have only one living grandparent, which led to thoughts of my parents and how much they would have loved the boys. But even though they will never know them, I try to keep a part of them alive in the stories I tell them......That's as close as I can get and a form of immortality that I can understand.

Extra hugs for all and my very best thoughts to you during this hard time.

Pat, and my Karen too.