I wasn't going to contribute to this thread, had no arguement over censorhip and did regret my actions (alhough as PaulG says, I mentioned nothing current) but it now seems as if my honesty is being called into question.

Firstly, I did not say the situation over PMs was current, I said or tried to indicate, that I made an urgent PM to Jeff to try and get an error fixed becasue of a row that involved people threatening to post contents of PMs in the thread. Someone had already posted that copy paste text would prove nothing and I feared that someone may try to post a link to a PM to settle any doubt. The implication of such a link being posted was that any one could read any one elses PMs. Carol agreed to drop the row for that reason and a fix was applied 2 days later.

Secondly, it is untrue to suggest that matters have always been fixed promptly. It was a damn near impossible task to get anything fixed until Jeff came along. Jeff, in fairness does try to fix things promptly but some areas that Joe and Max have been aware of for some time still exist and need fixing. Evidence of this can be found at (click).

I would dissagree with Joe Offers: "Like it or not, people who prefer anonymity are second-class citizens at Mudcat" and the implication from "We are especially wary of new members who join with false names and e-mail addresses, and those who give no residence information" that people shoud give residence information to aviod "suspicion" on any system. I find it even harder to accept that Joe Offer should make such suggestions on a system he is so worried about that he even has to censor mention of past flaws on.

Finaly, contary to what Joe has suggested, I became aware of most flaws BEFORE becoming a Joe Clone. One would have thought that being a Joe Clone would have made it easier for me to help get areas that I was worried about for the good of everyone here fixed but things just did not work out that way.

Jon