I don't much disagree with them on a philosophical level, Jed. If those were the options, I would be right there with you. Imagine the havoc The Beef Brothers could wreak...........LOL. But my time in the political system of this country tells me that that is not where it will head. The slope is pretty much a certainty, but by folks like us being a part of the discussion, we can make sure that there are two sides of the hill that slope. I am not saying that we shouldn't have strident views. What I am saying is that, IMO, we have to understand the dynamic of the political system and remain a voice in it. If we have the views that you express, but are not willing to temper them with reality of what it is we face, we end up in a "Charge of the Light Brigade". Remember when the NRA wasn't a strident "slippery slope" organization? They were respected and no one would consider them a fringe organization. But when they started taking "cop Killer bullet" types of positions, they lost it. These days, on the hill, they are only perceived well by the radical Senators on the pro-gun side. And their credibility with the voting public is lessening. Correspondingly their ability to successfully lobby on behalf of legitimate gun owners is lessened.

Mick