I'll rephrase that, as I've a bit more to add. I agree with Mark, Jon and Murray, from what I understand BOB is new to the internet and is using his wifes computer, he is off work at the minute on sick, he posts a lot but so do a lot of other people, I am certain he is not trying to annoy people, I have noticed that some of the insults directed towards him have been from regular mudcat members .On the "what do you like about Mudcat" thread Bob says "I like the friends I have made here, and the community".Lets give BOB a chance it would be a real shame if after finding this site, he was driven away becuase a few people made him feel not welcome.I sort of know how he might feel because when I first came here a few people took the piss out of my spelling, and I was going to leave but then I thought " ok, my spelling is not very good, so what!" If BOB does leave I wish him well with his diet and his depression and any other problems he is having.john