A suggestion just came up from Paul in the Annexe that I have now decided to mention here. As far as I can understand it, it is a forum for those who have drink problems and I would guess those that have actually been there themselves from within Mudcat. I invite any thoughts here, in the Annexe or via PM on this one. The Annexe thread is http://www.jonbanjo.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=146&pagenum=999&reverse=False&X=2Jon