Spaw: I, for one, am most grateful for that heartfelt and and most eloquent explanation of those words. I think I will print it off and place it on my bulletin board so that if the subject ever comes up again, I'll have a handy response. I shall of course always credit you as the author.

McGrath: I don't know which term is most prevelent in use in America. It so rarely comes up in conversation. *G* DougR