Thanks to EVERYONE including mystery GUEST for all your help. I've now learnt a lot more about the possibilities of pseudo bombardes as well. The Spanish things sound a good alternative in particular - can you buy them from anywhere?

Manitas we were thinking along the lines of using them in Kan har diskan with maybe just a drum beat behind but then we thought it might be good to add in other instruments half way along and therefore easier in a key other than Bb. The C looks a possibility but they seem to be dearer than the Bb.

Might saunter down to Hobgoblin shop and have a go if they'll let me.

I am mortified by GUESTs comments and hope everyone doesnt think I,m being offensive. I really am very grateful for all your ideas. It doesn't have to be in D it would be OK in any other key too but Bb is not best for the others in the band.

THANKS THANKS THANKS x 100000000000000000000etc

Sarah