But it's very handy to be able to play RealAudio files, and to be able to put them up on the net using RealProducer - of which a free version is still available it seems from http://proforma.real.com/mario/tools/rpproducer.htmlThe earlier versions of RealPlayer or Real Audio don't have these problems (which aren't that enormous, but...), and I should think it'd be easy enough to run one down. I've got one on a CDROM - but if anyone can find a site with a download, please post it here, because I use a lot of RealAudio files on a site with various songs, and I'd like to be able to include a link to a less intrusive version of the program needed to play them.