"In a real sense" and "in one sense" both mean the same thing, at least that's how I understand the language to work."

Yes, I remember the winter of 78-79. For a few weeks the streets were as messed up as they later became all the year round, when the services had been cut to ribbons to line the pockets of the sharks who'd got the contracts to clean the streets and then sacked the people who were needed to do the job.

And Murray - I don't think it needed an irony detector to understand that swirlygirl wasn't recommending throwing rubbish in the street. She was however touching on one reason why it is said to happen.

The assumption, which I think is a dangerous fallacy, is that if something is not "mine" it is "theirs" - as opposed to the realisation that the best way to live in the world is to accept it and to value it as being "ours".