H.R. 3598, The Universal Military Training and Service Act of 2001...I was speaking last night with some fellow Quakers about this bill which calls for universal military training for all, even Quakers, Amish, Jehova's Witnesses, Menonites, Hasid and other orthodox Jews... (we are exempted from training with guns - but must go though the rest of baisc training),,, and about the fact that basic training also entails real brain washing, my brother was a good example, raised a Quaker, joined the reserves as he felt it was unfair he could get CO status so easy, did want to go to Veit Nam and kill, after basic, asked to be a helicopter pilot and be sent to Veit Nam, BECAUSE of the high mortality rate and could not wait to get into combat ... we had it out when he was on leave and it brought him to his senses. Fact is, Pennsylvania came about because we Quakers would not be conscripted, we opened our colony to Amish and Menonites and others who would not wear a uniform... and here we are about to loose the heaven of the peaceable kingdom. I recall generations of us, until WWII who where tortured in American Prisons because we would not be soldiers of any state... I think it is time for the major peace churches to march for our first amendment rights not to have our children removed from our religious societies and brainwashed by the state. Yours in the light Larry