For those of you so intent on maintaining the current status quo here at Mudcat, I think it would be most informative for you to visit Geoff the Duck's "Mudcat Time Warp" thread, click on the link, and go back to the days of Mudcat before the flaming of guests and BS took over this forum. It is an absolute joy to read, and proves beyond a doubt what the Mudcat COULD be if the right changes were implemented.

Of course, that would mean losing members who like things just the way they are now--a playpen for flame warriors.

Go visit Oct 13 1999, and then think about why some people here want things the way they are now, instead of the way it used to be around here.