thanks for your help and i'm sorry if my question was not satisfactory enough for some of you but i'm to good at writing such a specifice(i dont know how to spell that) question and i thought a generalisation would get a wider answer. I'm not at all new to folk(hence my view on folk music i like very different things but maybe not the same as my friend) but i suppose i dont mean english folk music i just mean not commerical folk as that is what she hates the most, and not irish folk as she has enough of that to fill a house. I just wanted to help her get a way in. I also dont know what to class as folk music. The way my friend puts it is 'i like the finger in the ear, old men in jusmpers stuff' and thats why i'm stuck as i like kate rusby, Eliza carthy, cara dillion etc.

that sounded like a rant but it wasnt sorry