Paul, I agree that we should let Adastra PLC know of what's going to happen, however I'm not really worried about whether we upset or offend. I for one, do not want to be involved in the the big picture (i.e. BERFF) and they can get on with their planning for next year, which I shall most probably attend. I think the fact that 'something' is going on should be viewed as a positive effect by the official people. That the People's Voice sounds an up yours is immaterial, it is the fact the backbone of previous years (i.e. the Fringe) still want to meet, enjoy each others company sing play get pissed. Just some info that may have got missed from the end of the last thread. I've spoken to Padget, he had only just found out. he said Johnny Booker wasn't planning to come this year (he wants to go to his caravan and save some pennies), Nigel never came to Beverley anyway. He is very interested and wants to be kept informed. I think reading between the lines when things are definite he wants to be officially 'invited'. I told him that Bev would not be the same without his presence. Again i'll be involved if you need my name for committees etc, but as I'm over here attendance may be a problem. I do have access to copiers etc so can do a bit of buckshee printing. Perhaps those who are going to Barnsley can meet and talk.