Roger, Les @ co my e-mail is jim@workbase.mdec.ltd.org.uk I can be contacted by phone on 0114 283 5909 (work) or my mobile is 078877 01435. With regards to a beer name Two Rhetts Beer (slogan-f*ck me it's f*cking good beer) or Fathom the Bowl,Wild Mountain Ale (with added Thyme),Licolnshire Mountain Rescue Team Benefit Ale, the Manch, Fringe's Revenge, on the Best Session Ale !!!