Max, I've just had a serious row with my-wife-to-be. We went out tonight, for a change, and while we were enjoying our pints of Guinness, I told her about the Mudcat shutting down, and stressed to her how serious it was. She was well pleased! "At last", she said, "you can get off that feckin' internet"! She is in bed asleep now.Mick Bracken