I, on the other hand, am not bashing anyone. I am asking questions and trying to stimulate a fair look at this. musicmic, even if all you say is correct (IMHO most is and some isn't), what the hell has that got to do with getting to a place where Israeli and Palestinian kids don't have to grow up in this shit? The point is to stop the fighting and even if that happens today it will take a generation or two to undo the prejudices that many of todays kids are being raised with. But it must start somewhere. This is not unlike the north of Ireland. If it is one thing I have learned in my 6 or so years on the Mudcat, it is that we can go on and on about the ancient wrongs and who started what. But the childrens lives are more hopeful if those are subjects for political debate in a peace process, than what their lives are like if they are justification for more killing and hate. You need to step back. Your position and endless ranting about who did what are exactly why the process can't go forward. Do I blame Israel for protecting her citizens against the suicide bombers and terrorist cells? No, in fact I applaud her for that. Does that equate with support for what is happening now? Nope. Because they seek to strip the Palestinian of their chosen leadership. That is a shortsighted and losing strategy.

Mick